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| You scored as Traditional Catholic. You look at the great piety and holiness of the Church before the Second Vatican Council and the decay of belief and practice since then, and see that much of the decline is due to failed reforms based on the "Spirit of the Council". You regret the loss of vast numbers of Religious and Ordained clergy and the widely diverging celebrations of the Mass of Pope Paul VI, which often don't even seem to be Catholic anymore. You are helping to rebuild this past culture in one of the many new Traditional Latin Mass communities or attend Eastern Catholic Divine Liturgy. You seek refuge from the world of pornography, recreational drugs, violence, and materialism. You are an articulate, confident, committed, and intelligent Catholic. But do you support legitimate reform of the Church, and are you willing to submit to the directives of the Second Vatican Council? Will you cooperate responsibly with others who are not part of the Traditional community? http://saint-louis.blogspot.com - Rome of the West
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You scored as John XXII (1316-1334). Congrats! As John XXII, you ruled for 18 years. You were elected after the seat being vacant for two years, and you led an intense ecclesiastical life. You introduced the Most Holy Trinity holiday and canonized St Thomas Aquinas.
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posted by Lactantius at
7:34 pm
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Regarding what style of American Catholicism I subscribe to, when completing the survey I chose only to answer "completely agree" or "completely disagree", nothing in between. I suspect if my responses were a little more graded, say strongly agree as opposed to completely agree, I may have been missing a 95% Traditional Catholic.
Being John XXII is disappointing because he condemned the Franciscans for their insistence on evangelical poverty while imposing papal taxes to maintain his papal court and wage wars in Italy. He was also a herald of the Western Schism.
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Lactantius, at 8:30 pm
Yes, and you do believe that the holy souls will enjoy the beatific vision while still in their non-carnal state? :)
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Anonymous, at 12:21 am
Of course but Newman in the Dream of Gerontius has the following dialogue which has often troubled me, although it may well be poetic license:
The Angel
"So will it be, until the joyous day of Resurrection when thou wilt regain all that thou hast lost, new-made and glorified. How, even now, the consumated saints see God in heaven, I may not explicate; meanwhile let it suffice thee to possess such means of converse as are granted thee, though, till that Beatific Vision, thou are blind; for even thy purgatory, which comes like fire,
Is fire without its light."
The Soul
"When I looked forward to my purgatory, it ever was my solace to believe, that, ere I plunged amid the avenging flame, I had one sight of Him to strengthen me."
The Angel
"Nor rash nor vain is that presentiment; yes,—for one moment thou shalt see thy Lord. Thus will it be: what time thou art arraign'd. Before the dread tribunal, and thy lot is cast for ever, should it be to sit on His right hand among His pure elect,
then sight, or that which to the soul is sight, as by a lightning-flash, will come to thee, and thou shalt see, amid the dark profound,
whom thy soul loveth, and would fain approach,— One moment; but thou knowest not, my child, what thou dost ask: that sight of the Most Fair will gladden thee, but it will pierce thee too."
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Lactantius, at 1:22 am
Congratulations! I'm the only one I know out of all my trad mates that did the quiz about a year ago that managed 100% traditional. A couple attempted a number of times too. But then again I scored 4% liberal which was a bit of a worry.
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aaron, at 9:30 pm
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